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Shaq ejected after flagrant foul vs. Pistons | 11.16.08
PHOENIX, November 16, 2008(AP) -- Shaquille O'Neal made an early exit from Amare Stoudemire's 26th birthday party.
Stoudemire and the rest of the already short-handed Phoenix Suns did just fine without him Sunday night.
Stoudemire had 29 points and 11 rebounds and the Suns overcame O'Neal's second-quarter ejection to beat the Detroit Pistons 104-86.
"It's good to see our guys come out and jump on a very good basketball team,'' Phoenix coach Terry Porter said.
Steve Nash, back from a one-game suspension for his part in a skirmish with several Houston Rockets on Wednesday night, added 17 points and seven assists for the Suns, who were without two players even before O'Neal was tossed for a flagrant foul with 5:19 left in the first half. Boris Diaw had 13 points for Phoenix.
Richard Hamilton scored 19 for the Pistons, who entered the game 3-0 on a four-game western swing that began Tuesday. In their previous stop, they handed the Lakers their first loss of the season Friday night in Los Angeles.
Detroit's Allen Iverson scored nine points on 4-for-17 shooting.
The Suns made 14 of their first 19 shots and never trailed again.
"They're playing well,'' Stoudemire said of the Pistons, "so it's going to help us with our confidence.''
O'Neal had 10 of his 12 points in the second quarter before his night came to an early end.
The call was made with 5:19 left in the half when Rodney Stuckey went up for a layup and O'Neal sent the Pistons' player crashing chest-first to the court. The flagrant foul two, which is an automatic ejection, was upheld after a review by referee Ken Mauer.
O'Neal said the play was simply a result of "the laws of physics.''
"The laws of physics say that a body in motion stays in motion. So if you have two objects meet in the air, the smaller object is going to fall much harder,'' O'Neal said. "I've never been the type of player to take anybody out, so I obviously went to the ball. The little guy ran into a brick wall.''
O'Neal stayed on the court to argue vehemently as Mauer ignored him before the Suns' big man finally left as US Airways Center echoed with boos.
Mauer explained the call after the game.
"A flagrant two has to have a windup and a follow through, and be not only unnecessary but we feel it's excessive,'' Mauer said. "We thought it followed all three of those.''
Stuckey made both free throws to cut Phoenix's lead to 48-35.
But the Suns scored the next six to take their biggest lead of the half, 54-35, on two free throws by Robin Lopez with 3:19 left in the half. A 9-1 Detroit spurt cut the lead to 55-44 but Nash made two 3-pointers in the final 29 seconds to put Phoenix ahead 61-46 at the break behind 70 percent first-half shooting.
The Suns led 81-67 after three, then Detroit scored the first five points on the fourth quarter to cut it to 81-72 when Will Bynum stole the ball from Nash for a layup with 10:26 to play. After a timeout, Nash sank a 20-footer, and Detroit never cut it to single digits again.
"If we're going to be a great team, we've got a ways to go,'' Detroit coach Michael Curry said. "Right now I think we're a pretty good team, but we want to be a great team. We've got work to do, which is a positive. There's a lot of room for improvement.''
Diaw sank a 3-pointer, then made an inside hook, and Stoudemire scored on a drive, then followed with a dunk on a three-point play, putting Phoenix ahead 93-75 with 7:43 remaining.
"Against Amare you've almost got to play perfect defense,'' Detroit's Kwame Brown said.
Phoenix was without forward Matt Barnes and guard Leandro Barbosa for the second game in a row. Barnes completed a two-game suspension for his part in the fracas with the Rockets. Barbosa has returned to Brazil following the death of his mother.
Notes: Discounting O'Neal's three misses, the Suns were 13-for-14 in the first quarter. ... O'Neal was fined $35,000 for his role in the brush up with the Rockets on Wednesday. ... Detroit won its previous two games in Phoenix by an average of 26 points. ... Porter was an assistant for the Pistons the past two seasons.
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Length: 87
Rating: 4.60 (21 ratings)
Tags: shaquille shaq o'neal phoenix suns detroit pistons rodney stuckey flagrant foul ejection steve nash amare stoudemire
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Future Pistons 2007 - 2008
in action:
#3 RODNEY STUCKEY
Born: Apr 21, 1986
Height: 6-5 / 1,96
Weight: 205 lbs. / 93,0 kg.
College:Eastern Washington
#9 ARRON AFFLALO
Born: Oct 15, 1985
Height: 6-5 / 1,96
Weight: 215 lbs. / 97,5 kg.
College:UCLA
#25 AMIR JOHNSON
Born: May 1, 1987
Height: 6-9 / 2,06
Weight: 210 lbs. / 95,3 kg.
College:No College
#17 SAMMY MEJIA
Born: Feb 7, 1983
Height: 6-6 / 1,98
Weight: 195 lbs. / 88,5 kg.
College:DePaul
#7 IBRAHIM JAABER
Born:
Height: 6-2 / 1,88
Weight: 170 lbs. / 77,1 kg.
College:Pennsylvania
#54 JASON MAXIELL
Born:
Height: 6-7 / 2,01
Weight: 260 lbs. / 117,9 kg.
College:Cincinnati
#23 CHEIKH SAMB
Born: Oct 22, 1984
Height: 7-1 / 2,16
Weight: 195 lbs. / 88,5 kg.
College: WTC CORNELLĂ€ (FC BARCELONA)
Length: 426
Rating: 4.80 (52 ratings)
Tags: NBA tv Rookies Las Vegas Summer League Detroit Pistons Draft Highlights Stuckey Afflalo Mejia Johson Jaaber Maxiell Samb
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Michael Jordan 1988: 59pts Vs. Detroit Pistons on CBS
This is the single most important game of the modern basketball era. Also, it kept solidifying the fact that MJ saved his best for the best teams. MJ rarely cared to score big against poor teams unless he had to since it was a chance to get the team to play. In MJ's first 19 games vs. Detroit, he averaged 36ppg including a 61pt spanking the year before (a game I also have edited on youtube.com). After this 59pt game on national TV on Easter Sunday in front of a record crowd at Detroit, the Pistons' coach Daly had enough. He vowed never to let MJ beat them again. Born was the beginning of the most awesome defense ever - "The Jordan Rules". The basics of the defense were to 'funnel MJ to the middle so the big guys could knock him on his butt'. But, the defense was so specific that there was a rule for what to do wherever MJ had the ball. Go here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_online/flashbacks/jordan/891106/
The "Jordan Rules" went on to revolutionize the game - making defense win championships. The Pistons went on to win two titles and their 'bruiserball' defense on Jordan forced the NBA to invent the flagrant foul. The Knicks and the Heat copied this football style and soon, the league's scoring plummeted. MJ, still scoring 30+ ppg was unaffected with his insane skills but the league itself couldn't score. We saw in the 90s, slow games with teams scoring just 60 points each with no one able to make any shots. After MJ retired, the NBA tinkered with the rules to get scoring back up and today, we are still seeing this tinkering with the shortened half-court clock, the lax hand-checking rules, the illegal step-in defense for centers and so forth. MJ is responsible for all this.
I remember this game vividly. Few NBA games were on national TV so the ads building this game's drama were strong. We knew MJ and the Pistons already hated each other. The Pontiac Silverdome had a record crowd. What was MJ going to do? Well, all he did was go 21-27 for 59. But, the real key was that he won the game on two clutch defensive stops - a block and steal on Zeke - to make sure his 59 didn't go to waste. MJ's jumper was laser-like here and I remember actually being upset that he was so 'on' since that would mean he would be driving less. I wanted to see more acrobatic shots. But, that's just being a selfish fan. Enjoy The Master becoming 'The Master'.
Length: 381
Rating: 4.80 (460 ratings)
Tags: Michael Jordan Detroit Pistons Lebron James Shaq Kobe Bryant Magic Dwyane Wade Lakers Tmac Vince Car ter Allen Iverson
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Allen Iverson Pistons' Debut 24pts 6asts vs Nets NBA 08/09 sick crossover on Eduardo Najera!
Allen Iverson's first game with Detroit turned into the best night of Devin Harris' career.
Harris scored a career-high 38 points Friday night, outplaying Iverson in the second half and leading the New Jersey Nets to a 103-96 victory over the Pistons.
New Jersey, which trailed by as many as 14 points in the first half, played some of its best basketball of the season in the final two periods to hand the Pistons their first loss after four wins to open the season.
"It was just about playing hard," Harris said. "We didn't get off to the best start. We have been really struggling in the third quarter but tonight we came out with more aggressiveness. Points for me didn't matter. It was all about the win. We desperately needed this for our confidence's sake."
Vince Carter and Josh Boone each scored 18 for New Jersey, which got its first home win after two losses. Boone also pulled down 14 rebounds.
Iverson had 24 points and six assists after finally getting to suit up. Detroit played twice since the trade Monday with Denver that sent Chauncey Billups, Antonio McDyess and Cheikh Samb to the Nuggets for the nine-time All-Star. Iverson was not available for the first game and was not permitted to play the second because Billups had not completed his physical with the Nuggets.
Richard Hamilton scored 22 points, while Tayshaun Prince added 19 points and 11 rebounds.
It looked like an easy win for Detroit at the start.
Iverson stepped right in, joining Hamilton in the Detroit backcourt, replacing Rodney Stuckey. He got a rousing cheer from the crowd at the Izod Center when he was introduced with the starters.
Iverson immediately took over the game, factoring in the Pistons' first three scores. Iverson dished off to Hamilton for the game's first basket, scored on a finger-roll layup and kicked the ball out to Prince for a 3-pointer as Detroit took a 9-6 lead.
Iverson played the entire opening quarter, scoring 11 points, making all three shots from the field, including a 3-pointer, while going 4-for-4 from the free throw line as the Pistons raced to a 27-14 lead.
"It was a good feeling for me," Iverson said. "I haven't been able to play for a while so it was good to get back on the basketball court. I'll try to get a little bit of my rust off."
New Jersey cut the deficit to 44-39 at the half, thanks to eight points in the period from Boone.
New Jersey, led by Harris, came back to take a 72-70 lead after three quarters.
Badly outplayed by Iverson in their first-quarter matchup, Harris turned the tables in the third. Harris had 19 in the period, going 13-for-15 from the free throw line while forcing Iverson into four fouls. Iverson had a quiet quarter with only four points.
"I thought he showed unbelievable grit, fighting through, making plays, attacking the paint, having to guard Iverson," Nets coach Lawrence Frank said of Harris.
In the fourth quarter, Boone scored on a dunk midway through to give New Jersey an 87-79 lead that Detroit never overcame.
Hamilton nailed a 3-pointer with 41 seconds remaining to cut the Nets' lead to 98-94, only to have Harris answer back with a basket at the other end.
Although his first game with Detroit ended in a loss, Iverson expects better things in the future.
"We had the game and we let it get away in the second half," Iverson said. "Overall, it was a great experience for me. I felt fine out there, and we only can get better."
Game notes
Frank said Stromile Swift might begin practicing next week. He has yet to play this season with a sore back. Chris Douglas-Roberts and Trenton Hassell were also inactive for the Nets. ... Walter Sharpe was the lone inactive for Detroit. ... Wallace was whistled for a technical foul with 5:47 remaining in the third for profanity-laced complaint when he failed to draw a foul call. ... Yi Jianlian fouled out for the Nets with 3:40 remaining. Carter also fouled out with 1:53 left. Harris' previous best was 27 points against Indiana on March 28. He was 20-of-24 from the free throw line. The 24 attempts ties the Nets single-game record held by Carter (2005) and John Williamson (1978). ... The Nets ended a seven-game losing streak against the Pistons.
Length: 433
Rating: 4.90 (71 ratings)
Tags: Michael Jordan Paul Pierce celtics finals garnett walker bulls lebron USA olympics basketball kobe wade yao iverson mayo beasley rose shaq bird johnson heat lakers carter VC AI MJ Tmac 2k9 live 08 09 mvp reebok highlight the answer detroit pistons joe dumars rasheeed wallace chauency billups
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[2008.11.07] Pistons vs Nets Highlight - A.I. Makes Pistons Debut; Nets Win, 103-96
Allen Iverson finally made his Detroit debut but Devin Harris' 38 points led the Nets to victory
Length: 62
Rating: 5.00 (7 ratings)
Tags: Allen Iverson Detroit Pistons New Jersey Nets NBA Basketball
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Suns vs Pistons
PHOENIX(AP) Shaquille O'Neal made an early exit from Amare Stoudemire's 26th birthday party.
Stoudemire and the rest of the already short-handed Phoenix Suns did just fine without him Sunday night.
Stoudemire had 29 points and 11 rebounds and the Suns overcame O'Neal's second-quarter ejection to beat the Detroit Pistons 104-86.
"It's good to see our guys come out and jump on a very good basketball team,'' Phoenix coach Terry Porter said.
Steve Nash, back from a one-game suspension for his part in a skirmish with several Houston Rockets on Wednesday night, added 17 points and seven assists for the Suns, who were without two players even before O'Neal was tossed for a flagrant foul with 5:19 left in the first half. Boris Diaw had 13 points for Phoenix.
Richard Hamilton scored 19 for the Pistons, who entered the game 3-0 on a four-game western swing that began Tuesday. In their previous stop, they handed the Lakers their first loss of the season Friday night in Los Angeles.
Detroit's Allen Iverson scored nine points on 4-for-17 shooting.
The Suns made 14 of their first 19 shots and never trailed again.
"They're playing well,'' Stoudemire said of the Pistons, "so it's going to help us with our confidence.''
O'Neal had 10 of his 12 points in the second quarter before his night came to an early end.
The call was made with 5:19 left in the half when Rodney Stuckey went up for a layup and O'Neal sent the Pistons' player crashing chest-first to the court. The flagrant foul two, which is an automatic ejection, was upheld after a review by referee Ken Mauer.
O'Neal said the play was simply a result of "the laws of physics.''
"The laws of physics say that a body in motion stays in motion. So if you have two objects meet in the air, the smaller object is going to fall much harder,'' O'Neal said. "I've never been the type of player to take anybody out, so I obviously went to the ball. The little guy ran into a brick wall.''
O'Neal stayed on the court to argue vehemently as Mauer ignored him before the Suns' big man finally left as US Airways Center echoed with boos.
Mauer explained the call after the game.
"A flagrant two has to have a windup and a follow through, and be not only unnecessary but we feel it's excessive,'' Mauer said. "We thought it followed all three of those.''
Stuckey made both free throws to cut Phoenix's lead to 48-35.
But the Suns scored the next six to take their biggest lead of the half, 54-35, on two free throws by Robin Lopez with 3:19 left in the half. A 9-1 Detroit spurt cut the lead to 55-44 but Nash made two 3-pointers in the final 29 seconds to put Phoenix ahead 61-46 at the break behind 70 percent first-half shooting.
The Suns led 81-67 after three, then Detroit scored the first five points on the fourth quarter to cut it to 81-72 when Will Bynum stole the ball from Nash for a layup with 10:26 to play. After a timeout, Nash sank a 20-footer, and Detroit never cut it to single digits again.
"If we're going to be a great team, we've got a ways to go,'' Detroit coach Michael Curry said. "Right now I think we're a pretty good team, but we want to be a great team. We've got work to do, which is a positive. There's a lot of room for improvement.''
Diaw sank a 3-pointer, then made an inside hook, and Stoudemire scored on a drive, then followed with a dunk on a three-point play, putting Phoenix ahead 93-75 with 7:43 remaining.
"Against Amare you've almost got to play perfect defense,'' Detroit's Kwame Brown said.
Phoenix was without forward Matt Barnes and guard Leandro Barbosa for the second game in a row. Barnes completed a two-game suspension for his part in the fracas with the Rockets. Barbosa has returned to Brazil following the death of his mother.
Notes: Discounting O'Neal's three misses, the Suns were 13-for-14 in the first quarter. ... O'Neal was fined $35,000 for his role in the brush up with the Rockets on Wednesday. ... Detroit won its previous two games in Phoenix by an average of 26 points. ... Porter was an assistant for the Pistons the past two seasons.
Copyright 2008 by STATS LLC and Associated Press. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of STATS LLC and Associated Press is strictly prohibited
Length: 159
Rating: 4.00 (4 ratings)
Tags: NBA Suns vs Pistons Neal Iverson Nash
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